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In the Company of Crows and Ravens

In the Company of Crows and Ravens

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Authors: John M. Marzluff, Tony Angell
Creator: Paul R. Ehrlich
Publisher: Yale University Press
Category: Book

List Price: $19.95
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Avg. Customer Rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars 13 reviews
Sales Rank: 137881

Media: Paperback
Number Of Items: 1
Pages: 408
Shipping Weight (lbs): 1.7
Dimensions (in): 9.1 x 6.9 x 1

ISBN: 0300122551
Dewey Decimal Number: 598.864
EAN: 9780300122558

Publication Date: June 5, 2007
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Editorial Reviews:

Product Description
“Crows and people share similar traits and social strategies. To a surprising extent, to know the crow is to know ourselves.”—from the Preface

From the cave walls at Lascaux to the last painting by Van Gogh, from the works of Shakespeare to those of Mark Twain, there is clear evidence that crows and ravens influence human culture. Yet this influence is not unidirectional, say the authors of this fascinating book: people profoundly influence crow culture, ecology, and evolution as well.

John Marzluff and Tony Angell examine the often surprising ways that crows and humans interact. The authors contend that those interactions reflect a process of “cultural coevolution.” They offer a challenging new view of the human-crow dynamic—a view that may change our thinking not only about crows but also about ourselves.

Featuring more than 100 original drawings, the book takes a close look at the influences people have had on the lives of crows throughout history and at the significant ways crows have altered human lives. In the Company of Crows and Ravens illuminates the entwined histories of crows and people and concludes with an intriguing discussion of the crow-human relationship and how our attitudes toward crows may affect our cultural trajectory.



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3 out of 5 stars Good, but still a bit disappointing   November 18, 2008
 2 out of 2 found this review helpful

I really, really wanted to love this book. I love birds and their doings; in fact all of nature and animals interest me. The outward presentation of the book is beautiful. Most of the pictures inside are absolutely wonderful, in a kind of subdued but powerful way, although a few seemed drab or overly simple. The book had some interesting parts; unfortunately, they were usually fleeting and not fleshed out enough before the author reverted to a style which, to me, read like a textbook. It is especially evident in the dry first chapter, which could easily put off some readers from the rest of the book. It did get better, but never reached what I'd hoped for: a fascinating, stirring and well-written read on a great subject. I'm a person who loves nature, and wanted to read this to expand on a more specific interest in the corvids. Unfortunately, I believe this book is mainly for those who are already completely in love with the subjects.


4 out of 5 stars CROWS OF THE WORLD, UNITE AND TAKE OVER!   September 2, 2008
 0 out of 1 found this review helpful

Many people hate crows, magpies and related birds. I don't. Already as a kid, my mother gave me and my brother two crocheted toy crows. You heard me. Naturally, we named them Hugin and Munin. We did live in Sweden, after all. I was also fascinated by real, non-crocheted magpies. They had built an enormous nest in a tall tree just outside our window, in the middle of an apartment building neighbourhood! And you wonder why I review corvoid books, are you now?

;-)

"In the company of crows and ravens" by John Marzluff and Tony Angell must be the ultimate nerd book on American Crows and the Common Raven, although many other species are mentioned in passing. To be honest, John and Tony are the kind of natural scientists who prefer socializing with birds to writing books, which makes their book shaky at times, in terms of style and disposition. Sometimes, they mysteriously return to subjects already covered in a previous chapter, and they often introduce new subjects without natural transitions from the previous ones. Did I mind? Naaah, not this time. The book is simply too interesting!

If there is a main theme in this rollercoaster ride of a book, it's co-evolution between humans and crows/ravens. For instance, the authors believe that the American, Northwestern and Fish Crows were originally a single species. The primordial American Crow evolved into three distinct species by adapting to three different kinds of Native American culture. Today, as the big cities are expanding, the American Crows are becoming more widespread, interbreeding with the previously isolated Northwestern Crows. Also, the subspecies of the American Crow more frequently interbreed with each other. The authors speculate that global warming might induce the American Crow to breed earlier in the year, making it possible for American Crows to interbreed with Fish Crows as well. If urban expansion (and climate change) continues, this might lead to the emergence of a single, homogenous, all-purpose Crow in North America!

Urban expansion, and the prohibition against shooting birds within city limits, seems to be the main reason for the rapid expansion of the American Crow. With little or no natural predators, and abundant food supplies, sudden epidemics seem to be the only thing that can stop the crows from expanding virtually endlessly. The authors also make the interesting observation that suburbia rather than the urban centres are the best breeding- and hunting-grounds for crows. Apparently, crows and their chicks can't *simply* live on junk food, and need suburban lawns and parks to find natural food, such as insects! Why are we not surprised?

Of course, crow-human interaction doesn't always benefit the crows. The book mentions several island crows driven to extinction or near-extinction by humans or human-introduced predators.

An entire chapter of the book is devoted to corvid influence on human culture. It turns out that there are Stone Age cave paintings showing ravens, that many Native American peoples considered the crow or the raven to be the creator of the universe, and that crows have inspired Japanese art. In Europe, crows were observed for purposes of divination, and the Norse god Odin was accompanied by two ravens named...guess what...Hugin and Munin. It also turns out that eating crow isn't as rare as you might think, not even in the US. However, crows were sometimes served under the phoney designation "Rook", apparently because Rooks were considered even more delicious! Finally, the authors reveal that the Crow Indians were named by arrogant White settlers - in reality, they worship the eagle.

There are also chapters on crow behaviour, intelligence and altruism. Apparently, crows sometimes take care of family members that have been maimed and can't take care of themselves. On the other hand, crows might be very aggressive to non-family members. If a dominant crow is seriously injured, he might be attacked and even killed by other crows, eager to replace him. It also turns out that crows and ravens use deception in some of their social interactions. Crows and ravens are definitely more intelligent than other birds, with the possible exception of parrots. The authors mention an experiment proving that Jackdaws can count to five!

Sometimes, Marzluff and Angell venture into the twilight zone, as when they seriously discuss whether crows execute other crows, a persistent myth in many cultures, or wonder whether crows really are re-incarnated humans souls. I didn't quite get *these* parts of the book. Is John secretly a member of some spiritualist cult? May I join up?

Once again, this book could have been more well-written. Still, if you belong to the small minority of humankind that's fascinated with American Crows and Ravens (mostly the former), this is definitely the buy of the month.

And no, I wont tell you where me and my brother keep those crocheted toy crows. Hands off, you thievish little magpie.

:-D



5 out of 5 stars Crow linguistics! What are those birds talking about?   August 28, 2007
 2 out of 2 found this review helpful

I enjoyed each chapter in this book. Findings from the authors' field observations and original research with crows--by attaching transmitters to the birds, rather than relying on banding and a possible future sighting--provide a fascinating and unique insight into the lives of these smart and sensitive creatures. Did you know that crows usually mate for life or until "death do us part"? That there are actually scientists who specialize in crow linguistics? What are those crows in my yard saying? After reading this book I've started listening more carefully and have decided their whisper songs might be in Italian! I've given this book as gifts to friends. The illustrations are beautiful and don't miss a word of the text!


2 out of 5 stars Not so great for reference   April 10, 2007
 5 out of 38 found this review helpful

I bought this book hoping for a lot of good reference art. Although there are a number of good illustrations, its mostly text, which i haven't bothered to read, since i was only interested in the art. I'd look for another book if you want good reference.


5 out of 5 stars a must read for the Corvidae fanciers of the world   March 28, 2007
 4 out of 5 found this review helpful

This is a wonderful book, the authors have discovered so many interesting insights & amusing observations of the Corvidae family with the most fabulous crow art!

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